I certainly wasn't implying that saving a few hundred bucks is my top priority, I've posted several times both here and on the FB groups where those little wallets exist that I think high quality is important which is why I've gone with several PSP products instead of their cheaper counterparts. I was an early adopter of their oil cooler because I didn't like the rankety two-oem-setup options we had, I opted for their 2" outlets on my twins instead of silicone for the same reason (despite the 2" outlets being so much of a pain to install on 1ks that I'm probably one of five cars with the setup), I went with aluminum inlets, coated bearings, put in time and research on already expensive coils to improve them, going the custom fabricated route for several things... I know you said this post wasn't only about me but using me as an example as to why some vendors run with their tails between their legs while I've spent more on my car this year than most N54's are even worth makes me a bit sore tbh. Especially when evidence of all of that is all over your forums, but I understand your reaction and have made my own frustrated posts aimed at the platform too.
I used the word "boutique" for a reason, I didn't want to say overpriced. As someone currently shopping for an intake manifold I know you're right about the options, but that doesn't mean the EoS isn't very expensive no matter how you look at it. I'm sure the quality is excellent and like I said in my other post I know they care just as much about the bling factor as the function factor which can make things pricey. EoS is one of the few vendors I actually follow on instagram, because of the quality of work they do and the new ideas they often have. Unfortunately though, I think it's easy to see why most people would rather put in the extra effort for a relocated manifold or deal with the downsides of the Chinese manifolds when you compare the different routes. No I don't know how many they sell for the S55, but I can imagine the work they put into making this manifold like I said. I was simply saying that I hope for everyone involved's sake - including EoS, so they can make more money - that this module is hopefully more accessible. I thought bringing in the manifolds price was fair because of that track record plus for the same reasons you mentioned - there's no other module like it at this point, they have no competition and they could keep it that way forever if they wanted to instead of making it a product for the N54 elite only. But when you make something lots of people want at a price that's just dangling above most people's comfort level for spending on a single piece of equipment, you're going to get people scrambling to make a more affordable option in order to cash in. EoS could potentially do both the cashing in and having an excellent quality product. I was just stating my worry that it's gonna be Turbo-money for the module, and then someone is gonna come along and scoop up half of their potential buyers by bringing a product to market that functions similarly enough for most at half the cost. Thats it, by no means was I trying to take away from the excellent work they've done. My apologies if it appeared that way, and I don't mean this post as an attack at you either but I just wanted to clarify myself both out of respect to you and EoS, and before my word is taken out of context and I have another person go all RB on me thinking I was saying something totally different.
As for the bucket thing - I don't have the insider access you and a handful of other people do unfortunately and was going off the impression I got from the information I do have. Like someone mentioned, I thought our restrictions at this point lied in things other than the lpfp side of the tank and rarely do I see people go bucketless instead of PR or equivalent if the primary reason isn't cost. I'm glad to see they aren't doing an out-of-tank pump though and I'm excited to see what it turns out as.
That's what I figured, or at least hoped. As far as I'm concerned, either way everything is good between us. I greatly appreciate the two excellent communities you provide for us, and I can see how my comment couldve been misconstrued as negative thoughts towards EoS despite my efforts to make sure it didn't come across that way, but I also greatly appreciate the work and effort that
@EOSpeed has put into the platform. I myself went on a similar rant about the cheapskate group of N54 users over in the MMP built engine thread, as well as several in different comment sections of your FB page so I know where you're coming from and how frustrating it is to see certain people complain about certain things ("why do I have to pay for a flashing license AND pay for each stage of tuning in MHD? it should all be like $70, tf" NO, the amount of work initially and continually put into that app more than justifies the pricing scheme! Lol) I was just trying to state my personal opinion and hopes about the pricing even though it was unsolicited, hence why I made sure to include "that's just my unwanted 2c". I think EoS make excellent products from the look of things, I just figured it was worth mentioning the possible pitfalls of certain things since its an open forum we're in but I was not trying to discourage, discredit or detract from the work put in to this product. Even if it does come out at a higher price than what I personally would think is "objectively" reasonable (to which I have no idea right now - hopefully not a whole lot more than what the VAG equivalent option costs though at the very least) I may still purchase it if I feel it's by far the best option.
I already dislike the use of a Hobbs switch, so if this replaced the need for that and a SS controller + guaranteed I wouldn't have to worry about dropping fuel pressures due solely to a faulty module, AND it didn't cost an arm and a leg? Then you could count me in for sure. So to both to you
@doublespaces , and to
@EOSpeed I apologize if my previous post felt counter-productive. I genuinely look forward to what comes of this.
